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7:00:10 PM majdougmcknight: Okay...where'd we leave off with the bickering last time?

7:00:20 PM majdougmcknight: Also, hey.

7:00:23 PM cmdrshelev: what

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7:00:28 PM vadmblackthorne: Heh, dunno, but I've been working on my arguments. :)

7:00:34 PM vadmblackthorne: Hi Avery

7:00:40 PM ltcdraverylassen: Heya Admiral.

7:00:55 PM ltcdraverylassen: Sorry about last week, been swamped with school.  Shouldn't actually be here right now, but I need a break.

7:01:59 PM vadmblackthorne: No worries.

7:03:19 PM majdougmcknight: Well, I'm tired, and relying on caffeine.  That should give me the nastiness needed to take you to school.

7:03:53 PM ltcdraverylassen: Tired, got you beat on that one too.  :-p  Been up since 4 AM.

7:04:34 PM majdougmcknight: All nighter, bitch.

7:04:44 PM ltcdraverylassen: ::laughs::  Damn.

7:05:01 PM cmdrshelev: theres gonna be a fight on the lawn after school

7:05:07 PM ltcdraverylassen: Out by the flagpole.

7:05:14 PM majdougmcknight: Eh, don't worry, I'm full of shit.  I managed to grab a few hours during the day.

7:05:38 PM ltcdraverylassen: I got about forty-five minutes between classes today.

7:06:43 PM majdougmcknight: Ah, then it's all good.

7:06:50 PM majdougmcknight: But you're still gonna get wedgied to death.

7:11:19 PM majdougmcknight: So...light-staff of swordchucks?  Which weapons would you end up killing yourself with faster?

7:11:26 PM majdougmcknight: of = or

7:11:37 PM cmdrshelev: pistol

7:11:57 PM majdougmcknight: That's cheating if you do it on purpose.

7:16:11 PM majdougmcknight: So...I propose the next person to show up gets latrine duty.

7:16:51 PM majdougmcknight: ...especially if that character is a filthy, filthy alien.

7:16:59 PM vadmblackthorne: Still at four. :/

7:18:26 PM cmdrshelev: Vulcan said she wouldn't be here this week

7:19:04 PM majdougmcknight: I'm trying to annoy Glenn into filling in for her.

7:19:18 PM vadmblackthorne: Wow, wouldn't Glenn be a trip

7:19:58 PM majdougmcknight: He would.

7:20:41 PM vadmblackthorne: I'd just about kill to have Glenn back.

7:20:49 PM ltcdraverylassen: ::takes a step back::

7:21:33 PM majdougmcknight:'s not sounding like he'd have the time to come back on a regular basis.  Still, I've asked if he'd care to just drop in for a few minutes or something.

7:21:38 PM vadmblackthorne: Brad, c'mere.

7:22:12 PM ltcdraverylassen: Huh-uh.  ::shakes head::

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7:23:31 PM majdougmcknight: Hey hey, Glenn.

7:23:45 PM ltcdraverylassen: ::sees Hacker::

7:23:49 PM ltcdraverylassen: Oh... him...  ::smirks::

7:23:55 PM cpthacker: Hey Doug

7:23:58 PM vadmblackthorne: Well well.

7:24:07 PM cmdrshelev: oO

7:25:17 PM cpthacker: how's everybody been

7:25:25 PM majdougmcknight: Good, good.

7:25:47 PM majdougmcknight: Shelev here actually has a very vague, indirect familiarity with you.

7:26:01 PM cpthacker: oh yeah? :)

7:26:12 PM majdougmcknight: Apparently, horror stories of the hippie ship Cervantes made it his way at some point.

7:26:21 PM ltcdraverylassen: ::laughs!::

7:26:24 PM cpthacker: hahaha

7:26:55 PM cpthacker: how many years has that been

7:26:59 PM cpthacker: since Cervantes ate it?

7:27:04 PM vadmblackthorne: Not enough.

7:27:09 PM majdougmcknight:'d have to be at least 2.

7:27:09 PM cpthacker: or sorry... went off to get published in some obscure journal

7:27:31 PM cpthacker: of high caliber fanfiction

7:28:14 PM majdougmcknight: Careful, I recall Rachel having a moment of extreme wounded class sensibilities when I mentioned that word to her once.

7:28:21 PM vadmblackthorne: So I dunno how I'd get Glenn up to speed on what's going on here.

7:28:22 PM cmdrshelev: I am going to sit here and pretend that I know what the joke is other than cervantes being a huge abortion

7:29:03 PM cpthacker: I'm just here for old times... :) If it's anything like DSG1, it's long and complicated, hahaha

7:29:06 PM ltcdraverylassen: Longer than that... I'd say almost three.

7:29:10 PM majdougmcknight: Let's far as I've been here...

7:29:37 PM majdougmcknight: First, we beat up some green people who were pissed that we were trying to help them with a narcolepsy problem...

7:29:40 PM cpthacker: I also waiting on some builds here at work

7:29:53 PM cpthacker: yes, I'm at work :)

7:31:16 PM majdougmcknight: Wow...what coast are you on these days again?

7:31:24 PM cpthacker: West

7:31:42 PM majdougmcknight: Ah, okay.  Still, those are some late hours.

7:31:57 PM cpthacker: yeah... I might be here till 10

7:32:03 PM majdougmcknight: Yeesh.

7:32:07 PM vadmblackthorne: Gah

7:32:25 PM majdougmcknight: So...Glenn's mentioned to me that he's started to get into BSG.

7:32:33 PM cpthacker: damn good show

7:32:46 PM cpthacker: I missed Ron Moore's keynote at GDC though

7:33:14 PM majdougmcknight: GDC?

7:33:36 PM vadmblackthorne: Ron Moore updated his blog today.

7:33:56 PM majdougmcknight: Is said blog entertaining reading?

7:34:08 PM vadmblackthorne: Yes, he's just busy and slow to udpate.

7:34:10 PM cpthacker: GDC = Game Developer's Conference

7:34:31 PM cpthacker: he gave a keynote on reimaging battlestar

7:34:35 PM vadmblackthorne: So, shall we get this argument simmed out and behind us?

7:34:57 PM cmdrshelev: yes I am tired of these previews and commercials

7:35:06 PM majdougmcknight: Sure, I guess we can get that done without further help.

7:35:59 PM vadmblackthorne: Alright then. Commander?


7:36:08 PM majdougmcknight: ::AA::

7:36:55 PM vadmblackthorne: Okay then, we have what remains of Tagan's advisory staff in a conference room where they're being informed of my intentions to declare martial law.

7:36:57 PM vadmblackthorne: Questions?

7:37:15 PM majdougmcknight: One.

7:37:29 PM vadmblackthorne: Sure.

7:37:50 PM majdougmcknight: Does ANYONE have the last bit of dialogue on record, or are we just going to have to take a guess at where we left off?

7:38:01 PM cmdrshelev: one second

7:38:05 PM majdougmcknight: Of course.

7:39:17 PM cmdrshelev: it is not letting me paste because it was too large

7:39:31 PM cmdrshelev: Nar-da> If a smooth transition is indeed what you want, the "understanding" must remain that though the means have grown harsher, the force you bring to bear is for the enforcement of our policies.

7:39:31 PM majdougmcknight: Drat.

7:39:33 PM cmdrshelev: there

7:39:49 PM vadmblackthorne: Good to go then?

7:39:54 PM majdougmcknight: Sure.

7:40:47 PM vadmblackthorne: BEGIN SIM

7:40:49 PM vadmblackthorne: BEGIN SIM

7:40:50 PM vadmblackthorne: BEGIN SIM

7:41:29 PM vadmblackthorne: It is unfortunate that it has come to this, of course.

7:41:51 PM vadmblackthorne: And I will, of course, bear in mind your policies and welcome the knowledge of them when making my decisions.

7:41:58 PM vadmblackthorne: However, realize this.

7:42:12 PM vadmblackthorne: Your society, as you know it, is on the verge of total breakdown.

7:43:13 PM vadmblackthorne: Your government has shown zero ability to keep itself running through this strife. Most of the time we were looking, Tagan's whereabouts were completely unknown, even when he was likely alive.

7:43:43 PM vadmblackthorne: You have no ability to protect anyone who would assume the mantle of leadership. I could not guarantee the safety of such a person.

7:44:30 PM vadmblackthorne: Another assassination would completely destroy what remnants of authority your government still retains.

7:45:06 PM vadmblackthorne: I will not be assassinated. I will get your people to their new home and ensure an effective transition back to civilian rule, as mandated by my superiors in Starfleet.

7:45:32 PM vadmblackthorne: However, until that time, I will not take any more chances with such fragility.

7:46:26 PM vadmblackthorne: So, to put it bluntly on the table.

7:46:58 PM vadmblackthorne: You have two options at this point. You may serve as my advisors, publicly backing this transition.

7:47:13 PM vadmblackthorne: Choose this option, and you will be guaranteed a voice.

7:47:49 PM vadmblackthorne: Option two, we assume power by force and you have no voice, and I .... guess at how your civilian policies work.

7:48:38 PM vadmblackthorne: Make your choice, gentlemen.

7:50:55 PM majdougmcknight: Nar-da> ::Sits back in his seat, a muted hiss sounding in the back of his throat as he thinks for a moment::  Admiral, it was by the choice of those who led the way into this part of the galaxy that knowledge of your Federation

7:51:26 PM majdougmcknight:  So, tell me.  Has any knowledge passed to your worlds of the writings of Enarchis?

7:53:44 PM vadmblackthorne: Afraid I haven't heard of Enarchis.

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7:56:34 PM vadmblackthorne: ((And you are? :) ))

7:56:48 PM majdougmcknight: Eh, typical.  Enarchis was the most respected philosopher of the first Diaspora.  Among his many writings, our historians note the following: Not by manifest substance alone do our people endure.  Our dreams must form the sustenence

7:56:53 PM traxtaffinity: <<chase, sorry>>

7:57:40 PM vadmblackthorne: ::nodding::

7:58:46 PM majdougmcknight: by which our civilization endures.  But dreams are a gossamer thing, a thing in need of guarding.  Left scattered among the stars, they can naught but end dispersed, forgotten.  The Xindi, captain, guard their dreams most zealously.

7:58:51 PM traxtaffinity: ::disappears to complete a full report on fighter maintaince::

7:59:38 PM vadmblackthorne: And it is those dreams I intend to see that you get a chance to fulfill.

8:00:37 PM majdougmcknight: We abandoned what is now Federation space specifically out of fear and distrust of your people, and that is not a thing easily forgotten.  A true leader will remain mindful of this, if he intends his words to have meaning.

8:01:18 PM vadmblackthorne: I have been given no choice in this. What I am about to do is what must be done to ensure your survival.

8:01:43 PM majdougmcknight: I will agree to your terms, but be careful.  Our people, my own least of all, are by nature suspicious, and they will know a puppet government when they see it.  Lose their trust, and this impreswsive ship of yours, despite all its

8:01:50 PM majdougmcknight: guns, shall prove no substitute.

8:02:16 PM majdougmcknight: (impressive)

8:02:47 PM vadmblackthorne: I will bear that in mind.

8:02:51 PM majdougmcknight: Now then, I would ask a token of your sincerity.

8:03:02 PM vadmblackthorne: Go ahead.

8:03:57 PM majdougmcknight: If we truly are to be partners in this, let us return to an earlier point.  You spoke earlier of steps to be implemented which you could not divulge.  Surely, we have a right to know if we're to help you in this daunting endeavor.

8:06:43 PM vadmblackthorne: Shelev. ::gestures outside the room:;

8:07:07 PM cmdrshelev: ::Nods, leaves.::

8:07:29 PM vadmblackthorne: A moment, gentlemen.

8:08:37 PM vadmblackthorne: ::Exits:: What do you think about divulging our plan?

8:08:47 PM majdougmcknight: ::Drums his fingers on the desk awkwardly as he the conversation gives way to silence::'re the head banker, huh?  Guess the cold-blooded thing is a big help there.

8:09:24 PM cmdrshelev: We have to give them something.. I say we give them the what but not the how.

8:09:59 PM majdougmcknight: Nar-da>::Glares suspiciously at McKnight for a long moment before directing his gaze to the door::  The biggest.

8:10:29 PM vadmblackthorne: Suppose they can figure out the how from the what.

8:10:40 PM majdougmcknight: ::Directs his own gaze to the window, muttering:: Tough room.

8:12:24 PM cmdrshelev: We need faster response time for when the Machen Bren come back. Remote control does that. Just don't give them the codes.

8:12:49 PM vadmblackthorne: Alright.

8:12:52 PM vadmblackthorne: ::re-enters the room::

8:12:55 PM ltcdraverylassen: {{Sorry all, have to jet.}}

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8:13:09 PM cmdrshelev: ::Re-enters behind the Admiral:: ((what))

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8:13:45 PM vadmblackthorne: ::back in the room::

8:13:53 PM vadmblackthorne: Alright gentlemen.

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8:15:54 PM majdougmcknight: (That's better.  Miss anything?)

8:16:34 PM vadmblackthorne: (we're back in the room)

8:17:06 PM vadmblackthorne: Our plan is to engineer your warships so that we have the capability to remotely control them. This way if there is resistance, it can be quelled bloodlessly. This will also help our coordination in the event of another Machen-Bren attack.

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8:17:10 PM vadmblackthorne: Our plan is to engineer your warships so that we have the capability to remotely control them. This way if there is resistance, it can be quelled bloodlessly.

8:17:55 PM vadmblackthorne: Also, this will allow faster response times in the event of Machen Bren attack.

8:19:03 PM majdougmcknight: ::Nar-da::  That's...ambitious.

8:19:47 PM vadmblackthorne: We wanted to take every effort to minimize civilian casualties.

8:20:53 PM majdougmcknight: Of course...and how exactly do you propose to render such an invasive feat of engineering safe from detection by the ships' crews?

8:21:15 PM cpthacker: (gotta go guys, see you on the flip side)

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8:22:09 PM vadmblackthorne: Your people have asked repeatedly for our engineering assistance. Our capacity has been limited, but it will be provided. And by the time it's done, it's done.

8:24:57 PM majdougmcknight: Nar-da> ::Glances mournfully down at the desk, clearly needing a moment to make peace with his complicity in this::  Perhaps I wasn't clear earlier when I spoke of the Xindi inclination for distrust.  Unless these warships

8:25:48 PM majdougmcknight: are entirely bereft of crew with SOME technical knowledge, they WILL check your work.  If, as I suspect, you plan some mechanical alteration, I would advise something more...subtle.

8:27:07 PM majdougmcknight: Nar-da> All the relevant systems ARE computerized.  Some sort of dormant, discreet software virus would stand a much better chance of avoiding detection by a crew without a specific knowledge of what to loook for.

8:27:21 PM vadmblackthorne: Oh, our engineers can do that, rest assured. The insight is appreciated, as well.

8:28:40 PM traxtaffinity: <<see ya next week>>

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8:28:53 PM majdougmcknight: Many of our warships are crewed, as well as built by Reptilians.  And one of my associates in the chamber of commerce has survived the cataclysm, late of our electronic security division.

8:29:07 PM majdougmcknight: Nar-da> If you like, I can assign him to assist.

8:32:51 PM majdougmcknight: (Test.)

8:33:49 PM vadmblackthorne: That would be useful, thank you.

8:33:52 PM cmdrshelev: ((success))

8:34:19 PM vadmblackthorne: In that case gentlemen, we are in agreement.

8:34:33 PM vadmblackthorne: I would like for you to remain aboard Atlantis, if possible, while we make preparations.

8:35:17 PM vadmblackthorne: If only to avoid Tagan's fate.

8:36:07 PM majdougmcknight: It is because of Tagan's fate that I must decline, so as to check back in with our crew, face to face.  I assure you, we can trust all aboard our flagship.  We shall return as soon as possible.

8:38:06 PM vadmblackthorne: I need a way to maintain contact with you.

8:39:14 PM majdougmcknight: Nar-da>::Glances to Blackthorne's chest::  Give me one of those most attractive communications devices then.  That IS gold, yes?

8:39:30 PM vadmblackthorne: We can arrange that.

8:39:33 PM cmdrshelev: ((AHAHAHAHAHAHA ))

8:39:37 PM vadmblackthorne: Shelev, give all of them commbadges.

8:40:05 PM cmdrshelev: I'll escort them to security to have them issued after this meeting.

8:40:16 PM majdougmcknight: ::Nods approvingly::  I shall meet you halfway, Blackthorne.  No more, no less.  Continue to be forthcoming and even-handed, and I believe you shall continue to find us most helpful. 

8:40:49 PM majdougmcknight: Now then, Commander.  If there is no more, lead the way.

8:41:23 PM cmdrshelev: Permission to escort the delegates, Admiral?

8:43:34 PM cmdrshelev: ((::taptap::))

8:43:35 PM vadmblackthorne: Granted.

8:43:57 PM vadmblackthorne: Gentlemen, thank you.

8:43:58 PM cmdrshelev: If you will follow, gentlemen. ::Rises from the table.::

8:44:12 PM vadmblackthorne: You have done your people a great favor.

8:44:48 PM majdougmcknight: ::Looks at Blackthorne evenly::  We shall see, won't we?  Until next time.

8:46:47 PM vadmblackthorne: PAUSE SIM

8:46:50 PM vadmblackthorne: PAUSE SIM

8:46:52 PM vadmblackthorne: PAUSE SIM

8:46:56 PM cmdrshelev: paused

8:47:04 PM majdougmcknight: Wow.  Granted, this was basically just a political chat, but I continue to be surprised what you can do with less and less people.

8:47:29 PM cmdrshelev: 2 sims of politics = attack next week plz

8:48:09 PM vadmblackthorne: So am I.

8:48:26 PM cmdrshelev: though we bored all our guests to death

8:48:51 PM majdougmcknight: You'd be surprised.  Glenn ran DSG1.  That's what a lot of the sims turned into.

8:49:10 PM cmdrshelev: oO

8:49:14 PM vadmblackthorne: There will be engineering to do next week at least.

8:49:40 PM majdougmcknight: We'll think of something more action oriented in the near future.  Not to worry.

8:49:56 PM majdougmcknight: That just requires more people is all.

8:50:03 PM cmdrshelev: true

8:51:11 PM vadmblackthorne: That's true, it really helps with the action to have the crew here.

8:53:15 PM majdougmcknight: Perhaps we should start thinking up both main and contingency plots, in the event people not show up.

8:54:00 PM vadmblackthorne: That's a good idea.

8:54:03 PM vadmblackthorne: Keep the sim running at least.

8:56:21 PM majdougmcknight: Right, for thought.

8:56:47 PM majdougmcknight: Glenn has informed me that he will be requiring periodic (constant) e-mail reminders if he's going to remember about those specs.

8:57:12 PM vadmblackthorne: Well, get to pestering him

8:58:31 PM majdougmcknight: I will.  Just saying, it might get done a little faster if you chip in.

8:58:40 PM vadmblackthorne: o rly

8:58:55 PM majdougmcknight: Indeed.

8:59:57 PM vadmblackthorne: well, might as well get out of here and take it to IMs. I'll be around. :)

9:00:21 PM majdougmcknight: Alrighty, night folks.

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